9 thoughts on “Poker Breakdown: Is This Hand Good Sufficient to Stand up to This Huge Shove?”
  1. gerry o sullivan says:

    Dont try a move like this online in smaller tournys,theyll snap call whenever a flush is on the flop that doesnt complete

  2. Tanya M says:

    Flop call is standard by IP player, turn check by BB suggests he is drawing and has partly installed his opponent to be suspicious of a turn raise again (thus potentially giving him a free card) so if he spikes any 7, 4, or club he can rep the up and straight or flush on the river, All 2pairs continue with a further turn bet in the BB shoes along with all sets also. So the check suggests equity realisation, it's the line up and down would take without over bluffing too much. So the IP player should have bet turn to deny the BB equity, and got value from any drawing hands that may wish to call (thus making the IP player size it corrctly) but the flop raise some what managed to cripple logic in IPs mind and ultimately fear trumped logic on the turn. Queens a card IP can easily rep.

  3. Tom Cads says:

    What I find interesting is: how do we build.a calling range versus this overbet?
    I think I'd be overfolding this spot since I don't really know what we should consider calling with here?

    We want our hands to not have any clubs, but what else? A J, a Q? Non club 77 combos if we ever have them for their blocking properties?
    I didn't crunch the numbers but I'm fairly sure only calling two pairs and sets is not enough (and we are low on those after turn check)

  4. Joshua Gray says:

    It's the bet sizing that does it right? Reixach is just thinking if I call and he turns over 78 I'm out of the tournament so he folds. If he bets less sure it's a better story but he's not putting as much pressure on his opponent because his tournament life isn't at risk

  5. Squanchy Speaks says:

    I'm a station. I never fold pairs. Don't bluff me, I would have called.

  6. OsefKincaid says:

    It's counterintuitive that the correct overbetting strategy has a lot more bluffs than value, but at the same time the correct strategy of calling overbets has a lot more folds than calls. Took me a while to get used to it, the idea that "They bluff often, therefore call" is rooted pretty deep.

  7. Nikos Konispoliatis says:

    23 37 of clubs 78 of clubs or diamonds(backdoor flush and occasionally 55s or 66s) for value if he is balanced he would surely overbet with all this Holdings…KJ is very close because we are very caped… No way our hero has over pairs sets or two pairs.. These holdings would bet themselves on the turn for value and protection(no free card)… So we are an easy target to get bluffed on the river… I don't know if there were payjumps but calling or folding OK as options especially if we know our opponent…

  8. Gunars Lodzins says:

    If he has 34s why not 23s ?

  9. Daniel Murimi-Worstell says:

    The thing to keep in mind, when Heidorn checks on the turn, is he could definitely have check shoves. He knows Reixach will bet the turn a lot, or should, given Heidorn looks like he’s giving up and is pretty much now repping a draw that totally whiffed, AND Reixach's flop call looks like he has something that often wants to protect itself against a draw, or possibly a draw that wants some fold equity. So, I think the shove on the river definitely has a more credibly wide value range than you suggested in this video, and it is a very difficult sizing to assess the ratio of value/bluffs as Reixach, even if Heidorn is overbluffing a bit in this spot (making it a good sizing). It can have a decent number of sets and possibly two pairs (going for that check shove line and now shoving for value on what is certainly a bluffcatcher) as well as those draws that made it on the river. I.E. – it doesn't seem all that polarized to me. The tournament dynamics you discussed make it an even stronger play in my opinion. The great thing about the turn check also is that it allows Heidorn to give up with these whiffed draws and still win the pot some of the time — when Reixach checks back, he pretty much is face up. Honestly, bluffing the turn seems very bad on this board, as per your analysis.

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